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February 25, 2016 at 3:53 am #30149Arpita GuptaParticipant
I am simulating the 4 user transmitter and receiver network but i am not getting the proper eye pattern at 2Gbits/s so i need the help. i am not getting the problem. I am attaching the layout.
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February 25, 2016 at 5:00 am #30151alistuParticipant
Hi Arpita,
I managed to increase the eye opening a bit by using ideal MUX instead of power combiner. In your OptiSystem version, the power combiner output power is the average of the input power, but in the ideal MUX the input powers are all added. In version 14, though, the function of power combiners has been modified.
Regards
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February 25, 2016 at 6:53 am #30154Arpita GuptaParticipant
I have applied the IDEAL Mux but i did not get the any improvement please see the layout and solve my problem
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February 25, 2016 at 7:36 am #30162alistuParticipant
I managed to make a rather small improvement in terms of Q-factor (which corresponds to eye opening), increasing from about 3.3 to 4.1. Other than this, I decreased laser linewidth to 200kHz (which is commercially available) and also increased laser power, but none made any significant difference.
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February 25, 2016 at 7:02 am #30155aasif bashir darParticipant
hi arpita
can please post ur screen shot of .osd file, i dont have acess to optisystem this time.
with regards
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February 25, 2016 at 9:04 am #30179Arpita GuptaParticipant
i am attaching the image of design and i am not getting the output proper as explained in the optiwave software design example.
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February 25, 2016 at 12:20 pm #30202alistuParticipant
Hi Arpita,
I only suggested using “ideal MUX” instead of power combiner, but I see power splitter has also been replaced. Even though this does not make any serious problem, I suggest you replace it with power splitter if you like, since power splitter does not have the problem that is there in combiner in OS13.
Regards
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February 25, 2016 at 11:55 am #30193aasif bashir darParticipant
hi arpita
i have gone through your .osd degn pic.what i saw in your attached pic is that you are using the mux and demux……
1.but we use mux and demux while we are transmitting at several wavelengths.and you are using only one wavelength.hence in my view your .osd design is logically wrong. you are using time divison for single wavelenth which is optical timing division multiplexing(OTDM).
2. i think you are trying to form hybrid network i.e time divison wavelength multiplexing.
with regards
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February 25, 2016 at 12:12 pm #30199alistuParticipant
Hi Aasif,
The ideal MUX that I suggested to be used acts the same as a power combiner, so the use of it causes no problem and on the contrary, makes the design perform better since the output power is not the average of the input signals (unlike power combiner component in OS13), but it is the sum of them. So it would be OK to use it in such configuration.
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February 25, 2016 at 12:07 pm #30198aasif bashir darParticipant
you go through these .
1.https://optiwave.com/resources/applications-resources/optical-system-time-division-multiplexing-tdm/
if you replace ideal mux by power combiner and demux by power splitter , you will get very good results.
do this and and let me know about about your results..with regards
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February 25, 2016 at 12:17 pm #30201alistuParticipant
Other than what I suggested about use of MUX, I believe the system Arpita has implemented is not a hybrid system. The splitter used after the laser is just to distribute input optical power. If not, could you explain how the system is hybrid. I hope Arpita does not get confused by the suggestions.
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February 25, 2016 at 12:22 pm #30203aasif bashir darParticipant
hi alistu
please how had you suggested the use of mux with single wavelength. this is bizarre.with regards
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February 25, 2016 at 12:24 pm #30204aasif bashir darParticipant
mux is for several wavelengths. this is getting worse .
please explain the use of mux and demux for single wavelength, instead of power combiner and splitter
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February 25, 2016 at 12:36 pm #30210alistuParticipant
I only suggested using MUX, ant not DEMUX. But even using DEMUX does not worsen the performance of the system! it acts like a fork and copies the input signal to all the output ports, so that is why I suggested Arpita to replace the MUX to have a more practical implementation. So no degeneration should occur.
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February 25, 2016 at 12:26 pm #30206Arpita GuptaParticipant
i have also performed the design with combiner but i did not get the result
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February 25, 2016 at 12:40 pm #30211alistuParticipant
Please use an Ideal MUX at transmitter and use a power splitter at the receiver as you were formerly using. The modifications within your system should be made in other components. If you have any questions about the ideal MUX, please feel free to ask (to understand exactly why I suggested it).
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February 25, 2016 at 12:28 pm #30207aasif bashir darParticipant
hi arpita
have you replaced demux by power splitter. -
February 25, 2016 at 12:50 pm #30212Arpita GuptaParticipant
Yes but this did not helpful.
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February 25, 2016 at 10:31 pm #30218Aabid BabaParticipant
Hello arpita Hi asif,
people i agree with asif. You can’t use Mux as a power combiner here. Logic is fine you can split power of input signal and combine it. But i would suggest power combiner rather than mux. mux is primarily used for time division multiplexing. You would get only one signal at each time slot. If you wish to recombine the power you must use power combiner.
As i can see from the screenshot she is trying to split input power and MULTIPLEX it rather than combining it.
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February 26, 2016 at 6:13 am #30283alistuParticipant
Hi Aabid,
As you can see from the answer given by Philip Weetman, the Optiwave engineer, the new power combiner acts EXACTLY like the ideal MUX component. However, in older OptiSystem versions the power combiner was based on a model that Philip stated was not correct. This is his answer:
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February 25, 2016 at 10:32 pm #30219Aabid BabaParticipant
Arpita could you attach your osd file. ??
we can try something respectively.-
February 26, 2016 at 6:18 am #30284alistuParticipant
Hi Aabid,
The .osd file is already available on this forum page. You can find it attached to Arpita’s main post. You only need to replace the power combiner by an ideal MUX, as I have been explaining (since Arpita is using version 13 and so on).
Regards
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February 26, 2016 at 12:40 am #30225aasif bashir darParticipant
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February 26, 2016 at 1:05 am #30229Arpita GuptaParticipant
i have been performed the analysis with ideal mux and optical combiner and splitter but no change observed in BER. please see the .osd file
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February 26, 2016 at 1:05 am #30230aasif bashir darParticipant
hi arpita ,
i suggest you also to visit the above the link to clear your confusion above the power combiners and ideal mux
with regards
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February 26, 2016 at 1:07 am #30232aasif bashir darParticipant
hi arpita,
i suggest u to visit the above to clear the confusion about power combiner and ideal mux.
with regards
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February 26, 2016 at 1:20 am #30234Aabid BabaParticipant
Hi arpita.
I guess you shouldn’t be using delay at the first input. You can receive it with zero delay but you must keep the delay for other corresponding inputs.
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February 26, 2016 at 1:32 am #30236Arpita GuptaParticipant
I have also apply the analysis with the IDEAL MUX and combiner and splitter but i did not seen any improvement so i confuse where is the problem.
I am attaching the .osd file please see this -
February 26, 2016 at 1:49 am #30242Aabid BabaParticipant
your sent osd file is not running. I am getting an error while simulating it. Are you able to simulate it..?? It shows an error message ” component calculation not complete”. Please look in the design again and send an osd file which is running atleast.
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February 26, 2016 at 1:51 am #30243Aabid BabaParticipant
This is exactly what it shows when i try to simulate it. are you working on optiwave 7 /13 or 14 ??
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February 26, 2016 at 2:09 am #30248Arpita GuptaParticipant
I am simulated with the optiwave 7 please see the latest attachment
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February 26, 2016 at 2:15 am #30251Aabid BabaParticipant
It again shows the same message. Are you able to simulate it and note the eye diagrams and all?
i am not able to simulate it leave apart checking for results. I guess there is some compatibility issues. I find it very strange that its not working on optiwave 14 when it should easily work. I will see to it.
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March 5, 2016 at 12:53 am #31562Ranjeet KumarParticipant
Hi Arpita,
Use WDM demux in place of power splitter to remove error.
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March 6, 2016 at 9:57 am #31582umer ashraf waniParticipant
Apita mam use fork instead of power splitter
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March 7, 2016 at 11:26 am #31737Ranjeet KumarParticipant
Hi arpita,
I here uploading an osd file OTDM.
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