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    • #29608
      Tung Tran Van
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      I have to simulate a realistic DWDM system, so I can’t use a ideal MUX. But BER is bad (~10^-7) (no optical fibers & amplifiers), while using the ideal MUX, BER is very low.
      How do I optimize MUX’s paramaters to improve BER (~10^-12 – 10^-9). Thanks.
      I attached my tesing project.

    • #29611
      alistu
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      Hi Tung,

      In order to improve the performance of the system with real WDM components, you need to consider the bandwidth defined in the WDM MUX and DEMUX the same as the transmitted bandwidth. I suggest changing it to 11 GHz or 12 GHz (which is about 0.1 nm). The ideal MUX gives all the bandwidth they need and that’s why the signal is better.

      Regards

      • #29634
        Tung Tran Van
        Participant

        Thanks alistu. I got a better perfomance (~10^-10) with MUX/DEMUX’s bandwitdh 11 GHz.
        Could you tell me which component I can check to know the transmitted bandwidth? A Laser?

        • #29637
          alistu
          Participant

          You’re welcome Tung. You can use an optical spectrum analyzer in the transmitter after the signal for any of the spectrum channels is produced. In case of your system, if you increase the bandwidth of the MUX even further, you’ll notice the performance is improved. This shows you should still increase it further.

    • #29659
      gaganpreet Kaur
      Participant

      Alistu i need to understand theoretical relationship between WDM transmitter BW and MUX bandwidth.i was unable to open the file this hour coz optisystem is available only during working hours at college . but i have never optimized mUx BW and a s result many times i received no output BER or Eye diagram but admitting it i was not even aware of this thing. i will try on my design but i need to know criteria of matching bandwidth of MUX/demux with WDM transmitter BW.

      • #29665
        alistu
        Participant

        The bandwidth of each channel in WDM depends very much on the bit rate of that channel and the coding scheme adopted. I have noticed in many cases they consider the bandwidth about ” 0.6*Symbol Rate “. To optimize the dedicated bandwidth, you may need to have a trade off between Q-factor and bandwidth efficiency sometimes.

    • #29670
      Tung Tran Van
      Participant

      I read some dwdm mux/demux’s datasheet, it usually has a 3dB filter bandwidth of 0.1 nm , even up to 0.45 nm. When increasing the bandwidth of mux/demux, the system performance increases greatly.
      But I’m getting a problem, when I use optical fiber & 2 amplifiers: Boost Amp – BA & Pre Amp – PA, I dont know why calculating optical fiber is extremely slow. I have waited 10 minutes and it has not finished yet. When deleting the BA, it run faster.

      • #29674
        alistu
        Participant

        The reason for the calculations taking up so much time in your simulation is the fact that too much power has been injected into the optical fiber and as a result, nonlinear effects are asserting themselves. You may need to decrease the gain of your power booster to overcome this problem.

        • #29677
          Tung Tran Van
          Participant

          I reduced the BA’s gain to 10dB, it run faster. It generated new frequencies because of FWM, but the system perfomance was OK (~10^-10).
          Gain range of BA and PA usually are 5-20dB and 5-30dB respectively. Do you know which operating mode of optical amplifier (OA) is set in fact, constant gain or constant output power…? And how much gain should OA set to restrict nonlinear effects?

        • #29680
          alistu
          Participant

          As far as I know, the gain control and other operation mode options are available in OptiSystem to make working with optical amplifiers easier. In reality, if you need constant gain or any other characteristics, you would have to design the system for that. I have noticed in many applications constant gain was paid attention to.

        • #29694
          Tung Tran Van
          Participant

          Thanks alistu. I dont see receiver sensitivity in receiver components. How can I find it?

        • #29695
          alistu
          Participant

          You’re welcome Tung. Receiver sensitivity is not a factor to be shown in receiver components. It depends on the maximum BER (or minimum Q-factor) defined by the user. I suggest you read the explanation given by Damian in reply to me asking the same question:

          CO-OFDM Architecture

    • #29903
      Tung Tran Van
      Participant

      I cant setup a MPO Optimization, I followed pdf file “Optisystem tutorial volume 2”. I cant find “Gain Falatting” type in a Main tab; Contranst tab, Advanced tab….It’s so hard to understand.
      I’m using OptiS version 7.

    • #29981
      Tung Tran Van
      Participant

      A DWDM signal has wavelengths (192.1 THz – 195.5 THz) with similar signal power, noise & OSNR. But the BER of the signal decreases from 192.1 (~10^-12) to 195.5 (~10^-6)? A demux has bandwidth 13 GHz. I dont understand why their BER are different
      I attached some photos. Please help me how to fix. Thanks.

      • #29984
        alistu
        Participant

        It is really difficult to find the problem with the system implementation unless access to the .osd file is provided. But generally speaking, the optical fibers used in the system have a reference wavelength with regard to which the some of its other parameters are set. This should be taken into consideration.

    • #29982
      Tung Tran Van
      Participant

      Photo1
      photo2

      • #29985
        alistu
        Participant

        I noticed optical amplifiers being used in your system implementation. Optical amplifiers are also one of the other components who operate within a certain wavelength interval. So make sure their bandwidths are wide enough to cover the whole signal spectrum interval. You might use optical spectrum analyzers for this purpose.

        • #29986
          Tung Tran Van
          Participant

          I created new project Test2 to test OAs. The operating wavelength range: 192.1 – 196 THz. I used OSA and WDM Analyzer for checking, all wavelengths are amplified.
          In layout1, everything works OK. But node Node3 in layout2, wavelengths’s BER are different lot (as mentioned above): 192.1, 192.2(~10^-13) -> 195.1, 195.2 (~10^-6)
          I attached project Test2.
          Thanks

        • #29991
          alistu
          Participant

          From the image you have attached, I realized the amplification is done for all frequencies as you have mentioned (along with the noise added by amplifiers). However, I ran your Test2 file and the was not any significant difference between the performance of the two channels in terms of BER or Q-factor.

        • #30020
          Tung Tran Van
          Participant

          Thanks alistu
          I attached the wrong file :D. I have attached a new .osd file shortened from my project. In node3, there are difference between 4 channel’s BER in spite of similar OSNRs.
          Thanks

        • #30026
          alistu
          Participant

          Hi Tung,

          The implementation is really complicated and I spent some time following the wires, but I think it would be better to ask you to make the change I would like to recommend yourself. I believe dispersion compensation is not done in an efficient way. It seems the only parameter that you have considered for dispersion is the “dispersion”, and not the “dispersion slope”. This has caused me similar problems in the past. Please see if this is the reason.

          Regards

    • #30086
      Tung Tran Van
      Participant

      Thanks alistu. I’ve used files dispersion & dispersionDCF for SMF & DCF and increased OA’s gain, system performance of channels 195.x THz have been better.

    • #30427
      Tung Tran Van
      Participant

      After optimizing pump power and frequencies of Raman Amp for gain flatness, output OSNRs are very low. With several EDFA amplifiers, system performance is so bad.
      How can i improve the DWDM system performance using Raman amp?
      I attached my project (layout2)
      Thanks

    • #30434
      alistu
      Participant

      You’re welcome Tung. Let’s discuss your new problem in the new topic you have opened for it at https://optiwave.com/forums/topic/how-to-improve-osnr-of-optimized-raman-amplifier/ . Thank you.

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