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    • #18906
      Abdullah Baig
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      Dear Members

      I want to inquire how can i improve the eye diagram.I am simulating the system and the following results are obtained as shown in attachment.The receiver side is also attached along with comparative analysis report with respect to Fiber Length.

    • #18911
      Abdullah Baig
      Participant

      Should i change the filter so that close lines of eye diagram are obtained.

    • #18912
      Abdallah Ismail
      Participant

      It is a great Eye Diagram Q = 16 is large and very good.

      +1
    • #18913
      Abdullah Baig
      Participant

      Sir Abdallah Thanx for reply.
      1-Why there is gap between two curves as highlighted with red in pic-1? Is there any way to make the gap narrow and make eye diagram more clear?
      2-Should i finalize the above design?

      Because my target was to get the eye diagram as shown in pic-2

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      • #18976
        Damian Marek
        Participant

        It could be jitter, but to me it seems very ordered. Do you have the project file handy? What does the system look like in its entirety?

        Regards

    • #18925
      Ravil
      Participant

      Hi Abdullah,

      Based on your results, in my opinion, it looks like a timing jitter might be the reason of such a gap (the one shown on Pic-1). Do you have this gap when you are transmitting your signal for short distances? Jitter grows cubically with the distance, if I’m not mistaken…

      What is the span length in you transm. system? How big is the whole section and do you use a 3R regeneration at the end of it? (can’t see it from your picture…)

    • #18926
      Abdullah Baig
      Participant

      Dear Ravil Thanx alot for your reply

      Actually my Project has two parts: Downlink and uplink. In downlink the fiber length is 110km but the results are good with no timing jitter.

      But the picture which is shown in attachment: is of uplink. And the fiber length in this case is 75km. But when i reduce the fiber length i-e 25km then just q Factor increases but the eye diagram remains same with same timing Jitter as shown in attachment above Pic 1.

      I am not using 3R regeneration at the end in Receiver.But using Low Pass Rectangular Filter as shown in circuit.png

    • #18927
      Abdullah Baig
      Participant

      Dear Ravil
      please guide me how can i reduce the Timing Jitter. I changed the Filter From Low Pass Rectangular to Bessel and Gaussian But result remains same.
      I also used DCF but results do not varied.

      Should i use 3R regeneration???

    • #18943
      Ravil
      Participant

      Hi Abdullah,

      Your filter performance is fine so far: it looks like it’s matched with your received signal and doesn’t show any visible distortions (based on your results). I don’t think that you can reduce jitter by using DCF fibers. It’s known that the main source of jitter is
      improper synchronization or management of the clock scheme in the communication systems. The influence of it is increasing with the increasing bit-rate. By the way, is your speed in up-link the same as it in down-link? Did you try to increase the bit-rate and see what happens?

      In general, the usage of 3R regenerators can reduce jitter but they are used for longer distances due to their high cost.

    • #18944
      Ravil
      Participant

      There are several techniques for timing jitter influence reduction are known. I’ve attached couple papers as examples, but you should be able to find more.

      But, before “fighting with jitter” I would recommend you to test your scheme and confirm that that’s the main reason for degradation of your OSNR. As an example you can try to increase the span distance or bit-rate (as I mentioned before).

      By the way, what was the increment of your Q-factor when you mentioned that your eye diagram stays the same while Q-factor is increasing?

    • #18945
      Ravil
      Participant
    • #19000
      Abdullah Baig
      Participant

      Hi Ravil
      Thanx for your reply
      You are right when i reduce system bitrate upto 8Gbit/s timing jitter removes from uplink. But it appears at 13Gbit/s.

      I am using wavelength reuse concept and down link wavelength is using in uplink part.

      1-The downlink system is good at 13Gbit/s So i can not change the system bitrate to 8Gbit/s and i have to optimize uplink on 13Gbit/s.

      2- How can i tackle with timing Jitter that is appeared on uplink???

      And Fiber length is not Paying any effect on Timing Jitter. Whether i increases or decreases the length….. Showing same results on 25km and 75km.

    • #19004
      K. Esakki Muthu
      Participant

      Dear Abdullah,
      I think, you please check your layout bitrate and the bitrate set at your transmitter. that could be the reason for this.

    • #19014
      Ravil
      Participant

      Hi Abdullah,

      I’d consider the idea brought by esakkimuthu and I recommend you to check it out first. However, in my opinion, the error should appear if the layout bitrate and the bitrate set at your transmitter are varying. For the solution, the easiest way from the schematic prospective would be an attempt to change the modulation scheme from internal to external. It’s known that external modulation is more stable then internal.

      Let me know if one of these first simplest steps would work and we’ll go from there!

      +1
    • #44866
      Abdul Latif
      Participant

      i have also problem related to eye diagram. i cannot find out the reason for this particular shape of eye (in the attached file). how i can improve it?

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