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    • #30917
      Naazira Badar
      Participant

      Hi all..

      Could any one of you tell me if the BER and the Quality Factor results we check using the Analyser are those after the system itself employs FEC on the system?

      Regards.

    • #30918
      aasif bashir dar
      Participant

      hi naazira,
      in my thinking the BER and quality factor results in the optisystem are gennerally forward error correction by default itself.because after simulation there it shows BER after FEC in the window where we check the simulation results.

      with regards

    • #30932
      Naazira Badar
      Participant

      yes, Aasif. I too think that the system itself employs FEC and provides us the result.
      Thanks for the reply.

      Regards.

    • #30937
      Aabid Baba
      Participant

      Hi naazira,
      I believe it is an inbuilt operation for every system we design. It would be so because Forward Error correction lowers BER and increases the Quality factor and that is the end result we want.
      Regards

    • #30942
      Naazira Badar
      Participant

      Yes, sure it is so Aabid.
      But in some softwares, we might need to explicitly use the FEC block. But seems like in Optisystem , it is taken care of already.

      Regards.

    • #30943
      aasif bashir dar
      Participant

      you are welcome naaazira

    • #31029
      alistu
      Participant

      Hi all,

      A really interesting question has been raised in my opinion. I looked for the answer but did not find any. Does any of you have any reason so as to why you think the forward error correction is already adopted? It is written in a tutorial or has anyone from OptiSystem made a mention of FEC? Thank you.

      Regards

      • #31058
        Aabid Baba
        Participant

        Hi alistu,
        I could not find it anywhere on the forum or the optisystem tutorial itself but forward error correction is an important aspect of every design tool so i presume it should be already there. We can further inquire about it.

        Thanks and regards

        • #31073
          alistu
          Participant

          Thank you for your response Aabid. I assume we definitely should. I just wanted to know if this had formerly been discussed in the forums, since I couldn’t find any. I found a page with a layout where Matlab was used, so I couldn’t tell whether Matlab has to do FEC or it was in-built.

          Regards

        • #31083
          Aabid Baba
          Participant

          Hi Alistu,
          I too could not find any substantial stuff about Forward Error correction in any of optisystem tutorials. So i think we should ask about it because it a valid discussion.
          And please Alistu can you post the link where you found about FEC used in MATLAB.
          With Regards

        • #31091
          alistu
          Participant

          Unfortunately I was mistaken. I believe the explanation given by Aasif can demonstrate how from the forward error correction being mentioned in the project browser for BER analyzer it can be inferred that forward error correction is used by OptiSystem. Even so, a more comprehensive explanation from Optiwave can really be helpful.

          Regards

        • #31097
          Aabid Baba
          Participant

          Indeed it is. For now we shall presume it is already being used by optisystem. let us wait for further explanation by optisystem itself in this regard.
          Thanks and regards

    • #31075
      aasif bashir dar
      Participant

      hi alistu,
      this is important discussion(as FEC has strong impact on BER)
      after simulation of any my design when we click in BER analyzer its shows some quality factor or BER.

      then if we go for report of the simulation there we see the BER after FEC at user definer instant .

      the two are same.

      therefore i thought the optisystem itself adopts the FEC.

      please reply for further discussion.
      with regards

      • #31079
        alistu
        Participant

        Thank you very much Aasif for your answer. I know about the importance of forward error correction and the effect on the system performance. However, I wanted to know how it can be inferred that OptiSystem is currently using such a capability or not. tThis was a helpful point indeed.

        Regards

    • #31094
      aasif bashir dar
      Participant

      hi all,
      after simulation purpose if we go for report of the simulation there we see the BER after FEC at user definer instant, click on that it will popup window.

      for convence i am attaching a pic that shows that optisystem is using FEC

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      • #31104
        Aabid Baba
        Participant

        Good job asif.
        Very very helpful indeed.

      • #31124
        alistu
        Participant

        Thank you Aasif for the attachment. In the attached screen shot, the BER after the FEC is considered has been shown, which is the same as the available BER shown in the BER analyzer. i am wondering if BER before FEC is taken into consideration is also available in the results of the BER analyzer.

    • #31098
      aasif bashir dar
      Participant

      hi all,
      i hope all the confusions and ambiquity will end now with the above image reading the use of FEC(inherently) in optisystem will end now.

      you can see that bER analyxzer and BERafter FEC have same value.

      hope every thing is clear now.

      with regards

    • #31101
      Naazira Badar
      Participant

      Hi all..
      Thanks for the replies.

      Yes Aasif, you are right.I have noticed that too. That’s exactly how we can infer that Optisystem itself employs the FEC. You have posted a valuable link to affirm this. Good job. (y)

      OptiSupport could still be consulted that anyway.

      Regards.

    • #31103
      aasif bashir dar
      Participant

      you are welcome naazira

    • #31145
      aasif bashir dar
      Participant

      hi alistu,
      i appreciate all there valuable suggestions

      i could not find any option in optisystem which gives the BER before the introduction of fore=ward error correction(FEC). if how so ever any body have any idea of geting BER before FEC, please let s discuss it here.

      with regards

      • #31161
        Aabid Baba
        Participant

        You are welcome asif.
        It can be an important parameter to consider in research work. One can easily compare the results of a system before and after forward error correction. You have made a very important point here.
        Anyways thank you.
        Regards

    • #31156
      Naazira Badar
      Participant

      you are right Aasif, because BER without FEC is an important consideration.

      Regards.

    • #31601
      Ranjeet Kumar
      Participant

      Hi,
      I also think that FEC is already utilized in design while using ber analuser by default. I agree with Aasif sir points about above points.

      • #31618
        Aabid Baba
        Participant

        yes ranjee that’s what we have oobserved.
        anyway thanks
        regards

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