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    • #23418
      ahmed helmy teama
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      Dear all,
      i ran same system as attached in Optiwave V.7& V.13 , it gives me different results
      V. 7 gives me Qfactor=8.23
      V. 13 gives me Qfactor=4.7
      Anyone can help me?

    • #23419
      ahmed helmy teama
      Participant

      Sorry the attached file missing

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      • #23422
        alistu
        Participant

        Hi Ahmed, I ran the file and it was interrupted by an error so I was forced to close the program! I think the differences between the results obtained in obviously due to the differences in how the component models have changed for the good, and you can definitely rely on the results obtained by the newer versions more than those of the older ones.

    • #23464
      Ashu verma
      Participant

      Hello Ahmed
      As Alisthu said about error in this system file.But Results not have to be vary for same file in two different versions.There are two different aspects, first is if you are getting different results every time from same system in one particular version and other one is by changing the version u sing same file.For first ,you have to disable random seed generation from some components.For second one you have to contact optiwave team i think. Thank you

      • #23502
        alistu
        Participant

        Hi Sam Sung, I believe getting different answers every time you run the simulation seems to be a very serious problem. By enabling random seed generation just minor differences are expected to be observed in the results. I always enable random seed generation, yet I always get results more or less the same.

        • #23548
          Ashu verma
          Participant

          In one of my system in optisystem older version i was getting the varied results every time i ran the simulation.And the difference is of 5 to in Q factor values .One time it is 6 Q-factor other time 10.Damian suggested me to deselect the random seed noise.Also i was asked to disable the noised like ASE ASE-ASE fro photodetector.

    • #23497
      K. Esakki Muthu
      Participant

      it is not about random seed, Still there is a problem, i have experienced the same few months back.? I don’t know the reason behind this.Kindly anyone please answer this.

      • #23505
        alistu
        Participant

        Hi Esakkimuthu, The problem you are referring to comes really strange to me. In the case Sam Sung mentioned, minor differences are possible but not in yours. Since I have never had this problem, may I ask you to attach a file for whose implemented system the aforementioned problem happens? Thank you.

    • #23584
      Damian Marek
      Participant

      It is hard to say what is happening here, because version 7 is quite old. Depending on how you built the project could lead to different results because some layout parameters were brought into newer versions. It could also be the random seed, but that seems like a large difference to attribute to randomness. Have you tried increasing the sequence length to see if that levels out the difference in Q factor?

    • #23611
      ahmed helmy teama
      Participant

      Dear Damian,
      I changed the sequence length from 164 bits to 256, buy there is no change in results in both versions.

      • #23614
        alistu
        Participant

        Hi Ahmed, Based on what Damian mentioned yesterday in another topic I think if the problem is actually from the sequence length, then you must increase it far more than that. I suggest that you use a sequence of length 4096 and see if the results change.

        Cheers!

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