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April 7, 2016 at 5:02 am #35990syed fareedParticipant
can we use FSO in underwater communication?
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April 7, 2016 at 5:46 am #36001Remo De SuzaParticipant
Hello Syed Fareed.
My area of research interest in free space optics but i don’t think we can use it for underwater communications. At the moment we are struggling to use it for terrestrial communication to get best out of it. It is still in its infancy stage and a lot has to be done to implement it on ground with data rates supporting the existing one. It has still long way to go to be used for under water communications. I hope you got my point.
With Regards
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April 7, 2016 at 7:06 am #36004SAHIL SINGHParticipant
Hello Syed Fareed,
It is correctly mentioned by Remo De Suza that as of now we cannot use free space optics (FSO) for underwater communications.. But it is also worthwhile to mention here that lot of research is currently being done to see itd feasibility but again its a long way off to be used for underwater communications… Hope this helps…
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April 7, 2016 at 8:31 am #36012Dr. Dhiman KakatiParticipant
Hi syed fareed,
I totally agree with Remo’s answer, I want to add that from the name itself it is specially designed for free space Optical communication that has a Refractive index (RI) of 1 but in case of water RI=1.33 This is a vast difference accordingly the speed of light will be lesser in water all the optisystem component property will not natch with it due to this difference. an turbulence and viscosity of fluid will be a major factor to be considered here.Regards,
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April 7, 2016 at 9:54 am #36019prakash jatParticipant
can you try Cn^2= 1.33 in refractive index structure?
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April 7, 2016 at 12:12 pm #36024SAHIL SINGHParticipant
Hi Dhiman Kakati,
A very important point figured by you about Refractive index.I completely agree that due to this the speed of light will be lesser in water thus all the optisystem component property will not match with it due to this difference…. Thanks for the information..
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Sahil Singh-
April 7, 2016 at 1:23 pm #36040Dr. Dhiman KakatiParticipant
Thank you so much sahil for the appreciation.
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April 7, 2016 at 12:37 pm #36028jyoti rainaSpectator
Hello Fareed Sir..
This is very good question you have asked.. I am myself interested in free space optics and hopefully if i go for masters i will definitely take this free space optics as my research project.. It is very much trending right now.. And thanks to all of you for making it look very interesting.. I am learning a bit more about this and it will be helpful hopefully.With regards
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April 7, 2016 at 12:51 pm #36033varinder singhParticipant
hello syed
you are talking about the optical communication in sea water…optical communication through sea water is possible ….but not without optical fibres may be in future…
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April 7, 2016 at 1:11 pm #36037jyoti rainaSpectator
Hello Fareed sir..
Here i would like to mention an important point that i have read that free space optical communication is mainly being set up to create communication links in the areas where we do not have any access through wirelessly.. To your question regarding underwater communication ..i recently read about Lifi technology which can be used..however it is not related to optical fiber..i thought sharing it here..With Regards
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April 11, 2016 at 7:08 am #36060rahul kumarParticipant
Hi syed fareed,
We could use FSO in underwater communication.
Many research have been done ..
http://ebooks.cambridge.org/chapter.jsf?bid=CBO9780511979187&cid=CBO9780511979187A065
http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/stamp/stamp.jsp?arnumber=6214706
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/233854960_Smart_Transmitters_and_Receivers_for_Underwater_Free-Space_Optical_Communication
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April 14, 2016 at 11:32 am #36704syed fareedParticipant
Hello Everyone
ThanYou all for Your valuable information regarding FSO in underwater
With Regards
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April 14, 2016 at 11:33 am #36705syed fareedParticipant
Hello Everyone
ThankYou all for Your valuable information regarding FSO in underwater
With Regards
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April 14, 2016 at 11:50 am #36710Remo De SuzaParticipant
Hello Fareed.
You are welcome.
What area are you particularly working on in FSO?Thanks & Regards
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April 14, 2016 at 12:28 pm #36719jyoti rainaSpectator
hi fareed sir..
you are welcome..i am myself interested in FSO..thanks for bringing up such topics..it is very helpful.
With regards
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April 14, 2016 at 12:31 pm #36720Remo De SuzaParticipant
Hello Jyoti.
Good to see people getting more interested towards free space optics. It is really a good choice because FSO is still in its infancy stage. You can do a good research on FSO.
Thanks & Regards
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April 16, 2016 at 4:52 am #37126jyoti rainaSpectator
hi remo sir..
thank you for your appreciation..i will definitely go for this topic for my mtech research..thanks again.
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April 16, 2016 at 6:08 am #37182Remo De SuzaParticipant
Hello jyoti.
You are welcome i would love to see you in FSO field. Have you decided yet what to work on i mean the in FSO only?
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April 14, 2016 at 1:37 pm #36737Rajguru M. MohanParticipant
Hi syed,
I think it is possible to use FSO in underwater communication.
We have lots of research papers on above topics. Underwater free-space optical communication has
witnessed a huge in interest from developments in blue-green
sources and detectors . It is considered point-to-point These take advantage of
the “blue-green optical window” of relatively low attenuation
of blue-green wavelengths of the electromagnetic spectrum
underwater. Laser-based systems have been demonstrated for
extended ranges, high data rates and low latencies. LEDbased
systems have been demonstrated for low-cost, lowpower,
and compact systems.
You can refer to the links:
http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/stamp/stamp.jsp?arnumber=6214706
http://www.academia.edu/4364160/Underwater_optical_wireless_communication_network
http://gradworks.umi.com/35/75/3575838.html
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April 14, 2016 at 1:46 pm #36740Rajguru M. MohanParticipant
Hi,
Due to huge interest to industry, and scientic, military, communities Underwater FSO are getting more attention day by day.
Underwater free-space optical communications is a most promising alternative for short range.
Lots of developments in this Underwater FSO communication are as Smart Transmitter and Receivers.
The underwater sensor nodes can use optical communication to wirelessly will be developed in near future.
ooad their data to an interrogating underwater vehicle equipped with an optical modem.
Underwater vehicles, sensors, and observatories require a communications interface with data
rates in the few to tens of Mbps. While ber optic or copper cabling can be used for suciently
large or stationary devices, a wireless link is desirable in many situations. Radio frequencies are
heavily attenuated in seawater. Acoustic communication is the existing prevalent method but
suers from low data rates, high latencies, and multipath issues.
The following links for more information as:
1. C. Pontbriand, N. Farr, J. Ware, J. Preisig, and H. Popenoe. Diuse high-bandwidth optical
communications. In OCEANS 2008, pages 1{4. IEEE, 2008.
2. Brandon Cochenour, Linda Mullen, and Alan Laux. Phase Coherent Digital Communications
for Wireless Optical Links in Turbid Underwater Environments. In Oceans 2007, pages 1{5.
IEEE, 2007.
3. M. Doniec, I. Vasilescu, M. Chitre, C. Detweiler, M. Homann-Kuhnt, and D. Rus. AquaOptical:
A lightweight device for high-rate long-range underwater point-to-point communication.
In OCEANS 2009, MTS/IEEE Biloxi – Marine Technology for Our Future: Global and
Local Challenges, pages 1{6, 2009.
4. Frank Hanson and Stojan Radic. High bandwidth underwater optical communication.
Applied Optics, 47(2):277, January 2008.
5. William C. Cox. A 1 Mbps Underwater Communication System Using a 405 nm Laser
Diode and Photomultiplier Tube. M.s. thesis, North Carolina State University, Raleigh, NC,
2007.
6. Jim A. Simpson. A 1 Mbps Underwater Communications System using LEDs and Pho-
todiodes with Signal Processing Capability. M.s. thesis, North Carolina State University,
Raleigh, NC, 2007.
7. T. Wiener and S. Karp. The role of blue/green laser systems in strategic submarine
communications. Communications, IEEE Transactions on, 28(9):1602{1607, September
1980.Hope you will get your attention on these links.
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April 14, 2016 at 1:53 pm #36744deepak jhaParticipant
Hi Rajguru,
Thanks for the information… Really appreciate your efforts… Will try to look into the links provided by you… Infact I think it is a very emerging topic and a lot of research is already in progress on this topic
All the best..Regards
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April 14, 2016 at 11:32 pm #36809nagesh kuknoorParticipant
Hi All,
I agree to most of you that it is an emerging field of research. A lot is being done in this field now.
Thank you
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April 15, 2016 at 8:47 am #36893Rajguru M. MohanParticipant
You are most welcome Deepak Jha,
I will keep trying posting valuable information as far as I could.
Thank you too for starting such important and latest topic on forum.Regards,
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April 15, 2016 at 6:57 pm #37039deepak jhaParticipant
Hi Rajguru,
Thanks once again..
Regards
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April 16, 2016 at 1:45 am #37100Manoj KumarParticipant
Hi all,
It is no doubt a very useful and meaningful discussion… Thanks to Rajguru for providing such valuable information…
Regards
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April 16, 2016 at 7:16 am #37205Rajguru M. MohanParticipant
You are most welcome Manoj kumar and Deepak.
I will try to share more valuable information on free-space-optical-communication.
It is really a important and latest topics in optical-communication.-
April 16, 2016 at 1:48 pm #37236nagesh kuknoorParticipant
Thank you all for the good discussion. It was really informative.
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April 16, 2016 at 3:07 pm #37265Remo De SuzaParticipant
Hi Nagesh,
I agree with you. It indeed was.Regards
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April 19, 2016 at 1:56 pm #38358umer ashraf waniParticipant
@RM Mohan can u mention some software’s which can be used for analysing under water FSO
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