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October 11, 2015 at 12:15 am #26179
Prarthana KashyapParticipantHi everyone,
Can you help me please, I am unable to find error vector magnitude, can anyone tell me how can I find that for any kind of design.
Thank you
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October 11, 2015 at 2:32 am #26182
alistuParticipantHi Prarthana,
In order to see error vector magnitude, use the constellation visualizer in your design. Now there are two ways to see the error vector magnitude: Either you can use the project browser to see error magnitude under constellation visualizer results or you can simply right click on constellation visualizer and choose “component results” option.
Regards
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October 11, 2015 at 8:38 am #26198
Dr. Dhiman KakatiParticipantAlistu this is really helpful.
with Regards
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October 11, 2015 at 8:43 am #26200Prarthana KashyapParticipant
But Alistu the value is quite hi in my system 10e+99.
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October 11, 2015 at 9:04 am #26203alistuParticipant
That value corresponds to the highest value possible for this parameter, so it should not be acceptable. But I have also checked it for a design i have had with a clear constellation diagram and it still shows the same value for that system. Do you also see a clear constellation diagram while you are getting such EVM?
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October 11, 2015 at 9:11 am #26204Prarthana KashyapParticipant
Yes in my case also I can see clear constellation diagram, then is there any other method for calculating Error vector magnitude. please let me know.
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October 11, 2015 at 9:32 am #26205alistuParticipant
As far as I know, this is expected to work and I haven’t seen any statement implying OptiSystem doesn’t calculate it right in the forums discussing EVM. However, the relation between EVM and BER is somehow not simple. I shall recommend you to see the following reply and study the attached pdf about the relation between these two:
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October 11, 2015 at 9:32 am #26206alistuParticipant
Sorry, it was sent twice. Please refer to my former reply.
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October 11, 2015 at 9:39 am #26208
MHD NAParticipantHi alistu,
you gave helpful information but could you please give us more details about the two ways you told and if there is any thing help to understand it deeply like book or photos, please attach them.Regards,
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October 11, 2015 at 10:00 am #26211alistuParticipant
Hi Mohammad,
Do you mean to ask for snapshots that depict how to see the error vector magnitude using either of the two ways I explained in my first comment on this topic? Or do you need more theoretical explanation on this? Because in this case, you can use the paper I have addressed to Prarthana in another forum.
Regards
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October 11, 2015 at 12:46 pm #26219MHD NAParticipant
Hi Alistu,
yes i need some snapshots show the manner of measuring EVM in your two ways because i have good knowledge about the theoretical.Regards,
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October 11, 2015 at 1:33 pm #26220alistuParticipant
The first way is to just right click on the constellation visualizer (or decision component) and choose “component results”, so it is fairly easy. To access it from project browser, I have attached two images. In snapshot1, you can see where to find project browser and click on it (it can also be found in menu bar, but this way is easier). After it opens, you can see the value for EVM by choosing “Results” folder from Electrical constellation Visualizer component, as depicted in snapshot2.
Cheers!
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October 11, 2015 at 9:44 am #26209Prarthana KashyapParticipant
Alistu, I read the pdf as you have mentioned, there is theoretical explanation and some equations. I came to know that error vector magnitude is calculated in terms of %. so how can I calculate EVM in the way as you mentioned in reply #26182. Thank you
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October 11, 2015 at 10:09 am #26215alistuParticipant
The Error Vector magnitude expressed as a percentage in the topic i have addressed you is not calculated using the constellation visualizer. The topic starter has obtained it using the decision component which can be found in the receivers library and gives the EVM for both polarizations.
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October 11, 2015 at 9:48 am #26210Prarthana KashyapParticipant
I agree to Namera.
Regards
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October 11, 2015 at 10:06 am #26212Dr. Dhiman KakatiParticipant
Dear all,
I got a solution for calculating EVM.
you can find the % Error vector magnitude by using the decision component. Right click on decision component the go to component result then there you will find the % EVM, Select the box in the display column. then run the simulation of the design, you can directly see the Error vector magnitude in %. I have attached here a design file (.osd) please go through it you will understand
Thank you.Regards
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October 11, 2015 at 10:08 am #26213Dr. Dhiman KakatiParticipant
Again the design attached missing. Really upset about this problem. I need attention of optiwave team.
Here again I am attaching.
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October 11, 2015 at 10:19 am #26216alistuParticipant
Indeed. Thank you Dhiman.
Dear Prarthana, you can see if you can actually use this component in your design before the decoder you have used at the receiver. In case you have any problem, you can upload your file here. This is the solution I can think of, as the decision component seems to have been giving sensible results.
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October 11, 2015 at 10:35 am #26217Prarthana KashyapParticipant
Thanks yo so much Dhiman. It really help.
Now I can find it easily.Regards.
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October 11, 2015 at 10:58 am #26218Dr. Dhiman KakatiParticipant
You are most welcome Alistu, I have been looking for this solution for long time finally got the result. specially borrowed the idea from your comment only where you mentioned to go to component result for constellation visualizer. I tried that for decision component and got the result.
Thank you.
welcome Prarthana
Regards
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