
calculation time
Hi optiwave members;
I have designed RoF diagram but when i made calculation, it takes long time about 2 hours for fiber_1 calculations…..what’s the wrong in my attached diagram.
N.B. i am working on optisystem 7.
regards;
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September 6, 2015 at 5:51 pm #24392
Hi optiwave members;
I have designed RoF diagram but when i made calculation, it takes long time about 2 hours for fiber_1 calculations…..what’s the wrong in my attached diagram.
N.B. i am working on optisystem 7.regards;
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September 7, 2015 at 2:10 am #24402
Hi Mohammad,
The reason for calculations taking so long is that a lot of power is injected into your lines and therefore, nonlinearities occur. I suggest that you lower your amplifier gains to 10 dB (which is enough for the attenuation caused by each optical fiber) and then start simulation.
Regards
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September 7, 2015 at 5:39 am #24406
High power cause calculation time due to non linearities I have analzed you system ,your calculation time will reduce if you calculate edfa gain as 50 km smf x 0.2 dB attenuation per km which is equal to 10dB.but your systen has some problem that i couldnt get signal on visulizer.corrupted signal is there.please share paper you wqnt implement for more detailes
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September 7, 2015 at 7:52 am #24407
Thank you Alistu and Sam Sung; and here you are Sam Sung the wanted paper that I want to implement.
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September 7, 2015 at 8:08 am #24408
You,re welcome Mohammad. By the way, no paper has been attached to your comment.
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September 7, 2015 at 11:53 am #24410
Welcome Namera,it would be great if you again attach the paper,i think you forgot to attach paper or system may missed the file you uploaded.We will help you as immediate we can and try to reproduce your paper.Thank you
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September 7, 2015 at 4:23 pm #24416
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September 8, 2015 at 2:35 am #24419
Here is your modified simulation file. The only problem it had was that you had forgotten to set channels frequencies (on channels tab) for the demultiplexer the same as the transmitted wavelengths. I also inserted two other BER analyzers the way depicted in the paper and the system seems to work fine according to the paper.
Regards
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September 8, 2015 at 4:53 am #24421
Thank you alistu for your effort, unforunaltly the attached osd doesn’t open by my optisystem 7. Could you save it in another way to open by optisystem or take a screen shot for the modified parameters, please?
Regards;
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September 8, 2015 at 5:09 am #24422
You’re welcome. Please open your own osd file (for which you have modified the amplifier powers and changed them to 10dB) and double-click on the WDM Demux 1X4. Then click on the “channels” tab and you’ll see the window depicted in screenshot named “sc1” attached. Now change the parameters as it is shown in the screenshot named “sc2” attached to my comment, and that’s it.
Cheers!
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September 8, 2015 at 5:49 am #24425
Hi alistu, I have done as you advise me but my results doesn’t look like the results in the paper.
for example; look at the BER results after modification and itself in paper, there is a big differentiation between them.
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September 8, 2015 at 6:27 am #24428
It’s sometimes very difficult to get to the results the same as the ones in a paper. However, I think your results are acceptable and you have a greater Q-factor and better bit error rate than the ones obtained in the paper. I suggest that you go through the paper again and see if there are parameters you have set differently in your implementation. And by the way, the paper’s results have been obtained using Optisystem 9, while yours have been obtained using Optisystem 7. I cannot say that doesn’t affect the results for sure.
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September 8, 2015 at 1:04 pm #24468
Thanks alistu; is it reasonable value of BER in my project?…..I have doubt about this value.
Regards;
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September 8, 2015 at 2:00 pm #24481
You’re welcome Mohammad. Your simulation results give great amounts for Q-factor, and the bit-error-rate acquired by the system in the paper you are working on has a non-zero value, while yours is zero, which is the least amount you can get! So I’d say yes, your BER is quite acceptable. Please compare the eye openings in both images you have attached with regard to the amplitude unit.
Regards
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September 8, 2015 at 1:21 pm #24474
What value you are reffering too? In general according to ITU,system q factor should be 10^1 and powers of it and ber should be in the range of 10^-9 to 10^-12.10^-9 is maximum error error rate that can be accepted.
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September 8, 2015 at 4:14 pm #24484
Hi alistu;
I think you said the amplitude of transmitted signals affect on eye diagram, so if i modify the power of signals,the eye diagram changes?
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September 8, 2015 at 4:28 pm #24485
I think I explained it a little unclear. What I meant was that if you take a look at both eye diagrams, you’ll notice the one belonging to the paper is about 20 a.u. open, while yours is about 50 a.u. open. So your system implementation has acquired a better Q-factor than the one acquired for the simulations in the paper.
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September 9, 2015 at 4:10 pm #24511
i would like to know if its ok that my DWDM design is taking 20 hrs of simulation through HNLF in optisystem 7.0. also i amunable to open any attached .osd files posted on this forum
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September 9, 2015 at 4:30 pm #24512
That is definitely too long! But please attach you osd file so that it would be possible to analyze it. I suggest that you take the power factor into consideration and lower the power to see if the simulation time is reduced. The osd file I have attached has been saved in version 13.0.3 and if your version is older, you can’t open it.
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September 10, 2015 at 1:20 pm #24563
Hello Gagan ,the time you mentioned above is too long.As far as Dwdm system is concerned then the total transmitted power is high than a single channel.The major reason for the long calculation time is your power Secondly you are using HNLF which is realized by increasing non linear index gamma .Now small power even can take more time in hnlf due to very small affective area of fiber and due to gamma .Moreover if you used Smf and dcf in your system then it will take very much time.The cause you need address is your power and could you please tell how many channels you fed to HNLF? Attach system file for better help And there is some reduction in calculation time if you use latest version.
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September 10, 2015 at 3:09 pm #24566
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September 10, 2015 at 3:15 pm #24568
Hi Gaganpreet,
With so many frequency powers being exploited and the resulting nonlinear effects, it is no wonder to me anymore. But it would be helpful if you also tell your launched power for each of your channels and say more about the amplifiers you have used in your system and the value of their gain.
Regards
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September 11, 2015 at 2:58 am #24579
If you are using hybrid optical amplifir than i would kike to suggest you following points
1. If you realized HOA correctly then as far as i read ,maximum gain is at -26 input power.That worked for me every time.In turn your calculation time reduce to much extent
2 Share your setup then i will try to modify it in same version you are using .
3. As power you used high in pump ,this will provide more gain it is not nessesity.Even by residual pumping at low pump power you xan get good gain with less noise figure.
4. Try to decrease the fiber length ,nore the fiber length more the calculation time.
These all problems may be corrected if you share the setup..
Thank you
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September 12, 2015 at 2:01 am #24627
thank you so much sam , i use total input power of 1 mW for WDM transmiier which gives nearly -20 dBm per channel signal . i would try to optimize it with -26 dBm for sure . thanks again for guiding.
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