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April 13, 2016 at 1:39 pm #36597Ankita SharmaParticipant
Hi all,
Can someone specify the values of different paramaters used in case of EDFA such as system bit rate,Optical Fiber Length,etc ? Also can someone please specify the advantage of using EDFA over simple Optical Amplifier?
Regards
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April 13, 2016 at 1:42 pm #36598Ankita SharmaParticipant
Also can someone please explain is there a formula to calculate the length of EDFA ?
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April 13, 2016 at 2:19 pm #36604Atul SharmaParticipant
Hello Ankita. Greetings from my side.
Well why do you have to calculate the length and what for ? Can you please tell us because its you who decides the length of the fiber you are going to use for your system and it definitely application specific. I hope it gives you some idea.
And as far as the difference is concerned it is the gain and power mode. You can think EDFA as a black box which you may use in your design.With Regards
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April 14, 2016 at 11:28 pm #36807nagesh kuknoorParticipant
Hi Ankita,
As everyone has mentioned length of fiber is application dependent. I somehow agree with their responses. You can determine the length as per your need.
Thank you
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April 13, 2016 at 1:54 pm #36600SAHIL SINGHParticipant
Hi Ankita,
The advantage of the Optical Amp is that you can explicitly state the gain and noise figure and the model is also much more simple.As far as the values of different paramaters used in case of EDFA such as system bit rate,Optical Fiber Length is concerned it depends on the type of application for which you are designing the system… Hope it helps
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April 13, 2016 at 2:00 pm #36601Ankita SharmaParticipant
Hi all,
I have another query Can i simulate the system without Optical Amplifier or EDFA with Fiber Length =50km , Also On which Fiber Length it becomes necessary to use amplifier?
Regards
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April 13, 2016 at 3:21 pm #36618Atul SharmaParticipant
Hello Ankita. Greetings.
You easily can simulate without amplifier fro 50km. Just take care of other important parameters like input laser power, bit rate and all. What are you exactly designing?
with Regards
Atul Sharma
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April 13, 2016 at 2:15 pm #36603jyoti rainaSpectator
Hello Ankita Mam..
I agree with sahil Sir that as far as the values of different paramaters used in case of EDFA such as system bit rate or Optical Fiber Length is concerned it application specific..
I hope it helps you to some extent.With Regards
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April 13, 2016 at 2:29 pm #36606Ankita SharmaParticipant
Hi all,
Thank you all for your responses particularly Sahil sir and Jyoti…
I really appreciate your concern..Regards
Ankita-
April 13, 2016 at 3:23 pm #36619jyoti rainaSpectator
hello ankita mam..
you are welcome its my pleasure..with regards
jyoti raina
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April 13, 2016 at 2:34 pm #36608Ankita SharmaParticipant
Hi Atul Sharma,
I just wanted to know the distance for which my system would work with minimum losses ? I actually had a bit of doubt in my mind… Also thanks for your concern…
Regards
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April 13, 2016 at 2:39 pm #36610SAHIL SINGHParticipant
Hi Ankita,
You are welcome… Hope you got the desired information…
All the Best
Regards
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April 13, 2016 at 2:53 pm #36613deepak jhaParticipant
Hi all,
Sahil sir has rightly mentioned it that as far as the values of different paramaters used in case of EDFA such as system bit rate,Optical Fiber Length is concerned it depends on the type of application for which you are designing the system…
Thanks and regards
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April 13, 2016 at 3:14 pm #36616Remo De SuzaParticipant
Hi Ankita.
As far as your query is concerned it is not all about the fiber length. To minimize the error you may have to consider other parameters as well like launching power, laser intensity and other such parameters. I think length should not be an issue as it is application specific as mentioned by others. I hope this will help.Thanks and regards
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April 15, 2016 at 12:15 pm #36913Domail SinghParticipant
Hello Remo,
Your answer seems to be more apt in this case. This should be really helpful to Ankita.
Regards
Domail
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April 13, 2016 at 3:17 pm #36617Ankita SharmaParticipant
Hi Deepak Jha,
Thanks for your reply… I really appreciate your concern
All the best..Regards
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April 13, 2016 at 3:35 pm #36620Ankita SharmaParticipant
Hi Remo..
I completely agree that it is not all about the fiber length… I understand that length should not be an issue but I just wanted to clarify about it..
Thanks and regards
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April 14, 2016 at 12:21 pm #36717Remo De SuzaParticipant
Hi Jyoti.
you are welcome. I hope you have got your doubts clear now.
Compared with glasses, for example, semiconductors exhibit much higher refractive indices in their transparency region. For example,Regards
Remo
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April 14, 2016 at 12:15 am #36624Ankita SharmaParticipant
Hi all,
Thanks for your responses particularly Sahi Sir, Atul Sir and Jyoti Mam… I got my doubt cleared with the help of you all…
Cheeers…regards
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April 14, 2016 at 2:56 am #36655FAYIQA NAQSHBANDISpectator
HI ANKITA..
As mentioned by other forum members.. The length is definitely application specific..
Regards
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April 14, 2016 at 2:58 am #36656deepak jhaParticipant
Hi Ankita,
You are welcome… and thanks everyone for the information..
Regards
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April 14, 2016 at 3:19 am #36669Kanwarjeet SinghParticipant
Hi Ankita,
I agree with some of the opinions here. You can model your fiber length as per requirement. Hope all the information is helpful for your proceedings.
Regards
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April 16, 2016 at 5:13 am #37142jyoti rainaSpectator
hi ankita..
i agree to kanwarjeet sir’s comment..you can do it as suggested by him..with regards
jyoti
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April 14, 2016 at 1:44 pm #36738deepak jhaParticipant
Hi Ankita,
I agree with the point put forward by Kanwarjeet that you can model your fiber length as per requirement.. Hope your query gets resolved..
Regards
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April 14, 2016 at 11:30 pm #36808nagesh kuknoorParticipant
Hi All,
I think Ankita must have got it now. It will be really helpful for her.
Thank you
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April 15, 2016 at 12:12 pm #36912Domail SinghParticipant
Hello All,
I think it is a very valid good discussion here. The points put forth by various members should help Ankita for her design.
Thank youRegards
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April 16, 2016 at 5:37 am #37161Ankita SharmaParticipant
Hi all,
Thanks for your responses… Really appreciate your efforts…
Regards
Ankita -
April 16, 2016 at 5:41 am #37164Ankita SharmaParticipant
Hi Domail,
Indeed it is a very nice discussion… Cheers
Regards
Ankita -
April 16, 2016 at 8:20 am #37212Rajguru M. MohanParticipant
Hi Ankita,
You can set these parameters of EDFA as:
You can also also refer to EDFA sample files of optisystem and check for various parameters in layout.
Signal emission cross section– 3.80×10-25 m2
Fiber radius– 2 μm
Length of EDF— 10,30, & 50m
Pumping power— 10,50,& 100mw
Signal input power— 10 dBm
Signal wavelength— 1552.5 nm
Pump wavelength— 980nm
Er+3 ion density— 1e+025 m-3
We assume the fundamental LP01 mode exciting at the pump wavelength (λp= 980 nm). The gain and Noise Figure can be obtained for all the three pumping configurations as a function of two fundamental fiber parameters namely: fiber length, and pump power. Thus, the required fiber parameters and pump power values can be optimized for a desired EDFA gain-NF performance at 10 and 40 Gbps.Hope this will help you.
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April 16, 2016 at 1:18 pm #37225nagesh kuknoorParticipant
Hello Rajguru,
Thank you for sharing such information. I think this should help Ankita.Regards
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April 19, 2016 at 3:12 am #38283FAYIQA NAQSHBANDISpectator
HELLO RAJGURU..
Thank you for this valuable information..This helped me..Thank you again.
Regards
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April 16, 2016 at 5:10 pm #37313Manoj KumarParticipant
Hi Rajguru,
Thanks for the information… Hope it helps Ankita…
Regards
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April 16, 2016 at 5:56 pm #37322Ankita SharmaParticipant
Hi Rajguru…
Thank you so much once again for your efforts..
Regards
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April 17, 2016 at 6:08 am #37360Rajguru M. MohanParticipant
Hi nagesh, Manoj and ankita,
You are most welcome.
I will keep posting and sharing latest information on above topic.
EDFA is a very basic element in optical communication.
so, we must its operation .Regards,
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April 17, 2016 at 1:49 pm #37534Ankita SharmaParticipant
Hi Rajguru,
You are free to post the information anytime on the said topic.. Hope to hear from you soon..
Regards
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April 17, 2016 at 6:17 pm #37717Rahul TiwariParticipant
Hi Rajguru,
Thanks for the valuable information… Youur efforts are highly appreciated…
Regards
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April 19, 2016 at 3:51 am #38304deepak jhaParticipant
Hi Rahul,
I agree with you… The efforts of Rajguru are worth appreciating..
Regards
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April 19, 2016 at 5:32 am #38325Ankita SharmaParticipant
Hi Rahul,
Thank for your efforts… Really appreciate your time…..
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May 24, 2016 at 12:56 pm #39350RAHUL ROYParticipant
Hi,
Erbium-doped fiber amplifiers are the by far most important fiber amplifiers in the context of long-range optical fiber communications; they can efficiently amplify light in the 1.5-μm wavelength region, where telecom fibers have their loss minimum.A typical setup of a simple erbium-doped fiber amplifier (EDFA) is shown in Figure 1. Its core is the erbium-doped optical fiber, which is typically a single-mode fiber. In the shown case, the active fiber is “pumped” with light from two laser diodes (bidirectional pumping), although unidirectional pumping in the forward or backward direction (co-directional and counter-directional pumping) is also very common. The pump light, which most often has a wavelength around 980 nm and sometimes around 1450 nm, excites the erbium ions (Er3+) into the 4I13/2 state (in the case of 980-nm pumping via 4I11/2), from where they can amplify light in the 1.5-μm wavelength region via stimulated emission back to the ground-state manifold 4I15/2.
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